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Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:


I’ll respond to Larry Stevens’s request for help, but no one should need me to verify a blindingly obvious fact: That Bold Ruler stood his entire stud career and eventually died at Claiborne Farm, Paris, Kentucky.

 

The idea that Bold Ruler ever stood in California — and especially at a ramshackle place like Hemacinto Stables — is, to put it gently, ludicrous.

 

As long as I’m on the subject of great sires dying at Claiborne Farm, I’ll throw this one in as a bonus.

 

Visitors to Claiborne Farm used to be told the story of the death of *Nasrullah, the sire of Bold Ruler. *Nasrullah was a vicious, dangerous horse, and, the story goes, when he was found lying dead in his paddock, his long-suffering groom walked up to him, placed his foot on his side, and said, “There, you miserable son of a bitch, I’ve finally got you where I want you!”

November 5, 2010
10:55 p.m.
Suzanne Pashayan, Calbourne Farm, Fresno, CA:


You are right on; Bold Ruler never left Kentucky. That does not even make sense. She can look all she wants, but she will not find that Bold Ruler ever stood here. There were at the time other stallions with “Bold” in their names…or “Ruler.”

October 25, 2010
8:05 a.m.
Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


I need some help or insight from my friend Don Engel. I think he might be the only one that would know the answer to this.

 

I was talking to a friend of mine this morning who swears that she and her dad went over to the old Hemecento Stables and seen Bold Ruler whom she claims stood there and bred a bunch of mares. She thinks that it was in the very late 1960s. I moved to Hemet in October of 1970. I told her that she must be mistaken (Don, please say I’m right), as I was sure Bold Ruler never left Claiborne Farms in Kentucky. She is going to try to find proof, and I told her that there was a horse standing there by the name of Windsor Ruler and Ridgeley Farm had a son named Neke, but I’m sure Bold Ruler never did.

October 23, 2010
6:48 p.m.
Caroline Betts, Southern California Thoroughbred Rescue, Norco, CA:


Yesterday at a horse auction in Southern California, 20 Thoroughbreds were dispersed from a single farm, at least 13 of which were purchased by a single “horse trader.” The Thoroughbreds purchased by the horse trader are available for sale for the next 24 hours before they will be sold off the lot. I’d like to try to find some of them homes.

 

I’m listing the ones we believe are available, and their auction prices. Prices that the horse trader will need will obviously be higher. Please contact me by email if you or someone you know are able to BUY AND PICK UP/TRANSPORT very soon a horse (SCTR has no space/funds), and I’m happy to put you in touch with their owner or intermediate their purchase.

 

  • Chachacharlie (breeding stallion by Indian Charlie): Sold for $50 at auction
  • Save (breeding stallion by Silver Charm): Sold for $50 at auction (very lame, left hind infected and swollen, very thin) 
  • Swiss Address (breeding stallion by Swiss Yodeler): Sold for $50 at auction (in poor condition)
  • Rose Cafe (grey mare, likely in foal to Chachacharlie): Sold for $75 at auction
  • Princess B. (open mare): Sold for $110 at auction
  • Bejing (likely in foal to Chachacharlie): Sold for $75 at auction (one eye missing, poor condition) 
  • Even Taler (1996 mare, likely in foal to Chachacharlie): Sold for $75 at auction
  • Lochanara (1986 mare? Possibly in foal to Chachacharlie): Sold for $100 at auction
  • Unnamed 2006 bay colt (Compelling Sound - Whisper Wildley): Sold for $185 at auction
  • Yearling colt, chestnut, pedigree unknown: Sold for $110 at auction
  • Bay mare, 7yo, pedigree unknown: Sold for $175 at auction
  • Chestnut mare, 10yo, pedigree unknown: Sold for $75 at auction
  • Dark bay mare, 10yo, pedigree unknown

 

Please help if you can. These horses are very unlikely to find good homes otherwise in the next 24 hours.

October 3, 2010
1:42 p.m.
Don Sandri, Hayward, CA:


In response to Larry Stevens’ and Don Engel’s remarks: AB2414 was signed by Governor Schwarzenegger allowing for increased exotic wagering takeout going directly to purse increases. The estimated purse increase is between 20% and 25%. Although the takeout affects wagering return, it’s a necessary evil in addressing a bottom line economic issue for all owners.

 

But this assistance should not end the need for our industry to continue the fight for a fair and level California gaming dollar playing field. The governor’s decision allowing a virtual monopoly for a variety of electronic and slot games brought our racing industry to life support status. This unfair monopoly needs to be repealed and those who are leading our industry need not take their collective feet off the pedal regarding this matter.
September 26, 2010
8:21 a.m.
Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


Racing is a tough game. Not only when it comes to breaking even, but it is tough for the horses that we breed, raise, race and sell. For the most part, the owners and trainers determine their fate, whether it turns out good or bad.

 

Doug O’Neill has been regarded as a successful trainer for many years, but the incident with Burna Dette will follow him for some time. I have no idea what conditions she raced under before the fateful Los Al race for a measly $2,000. I do agree that it wouldn’t have taken much effort to find her a new home being a winner of $136,000-plus. I do find it hard that Doug was not sorry about the way it ended, of course that’s after the fact. Had she made it through that race, we wouldn’t be writing about it.

 

I’ve watched a lot of races from Australia on TVG as I’m sure you all have. They race double the horses in a race than we do, yet I have never seen one break down. Is it because they race just on the grass, less starts, or is it that their trainers are better horsemen? I have been told by reliable sources that the Irish horsemen are just better horsemen all the way around than what we are.

September 23, 2010
4:08 p.m.
Janet Griffin, Bangtail Farm, Mad River, CA:


There is a horse we bred that didn’t finish her race and was vanned off the track recently. We were very concerned as she had been claimed from the original lady who bought her from us at Barretts and had raced her very selectively, including a long layoff for a minor injury. She had won a MSW last year at Hollywood and still has most of her conditions. First time she ran for a tag, Doug O’Neill claimed her for his clients. This was her first start for them.

 

We looked up Doug’s webpage and called the telephone number listed there the morning after the race. His assistant Nancy said he would call us back as soon as he returned from the track. Fifteen minutes later, we received a call from Doug and he gave an update on the filly’s condition and his plans for her recovery. He also has a half-sister to this filly in his barn and he gave us a complete update on her too. He was charming and reassuring over the phone.

 

We were very critical of Doug O’Neill and his owners over the Burna Dette breakdown and thought it is only fair to also post these comments.

September 22, 2010
8:13 a.m.
Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


Did anyone notice that the Washington yearling sale was up considerably? After a few years of steady declines, this was a welcome turnaround.

 

The state of Washington suffers from debt like most states, but nothing like California. We didn’t suffer the drop in home sales as a lot of states did, because The Hanford Project opened 5,000 new jobs and those people need places to buy. I do know that Emerald Downs is low on horses with 350 empty stalls on the backside. For the first time in history, they have invited the Quarter Horses to hold one of their Challenge races at Emerald, with the possibility that if all goes well the Quarters may be permitted to run during the 2011 meet. Now before you jump to the conclusion that the Quarters are going to take over, consider what is best for Washington racing. Make the track profitable or close the doors. It works out very well at Portland Meadows, and two breeds may survive.

 

Most Thoroughbred sales this year have taken a hit with the economy the way it is. I don’t know the answer for the sale at Emerald, but it has to be a plus. I attended the Ruidoso Quarter Horse Select sale last week and it was way up. The average I think was over $35,000 with three horses bringing $300,000 or more, seven head over $200,000 and 31 head over $100,000. There are 1,002 head going in the Heritage sale this weekend, and about 530 in the Los Alamitos sale the first weekend in October. We’ll see if the trend continues or not. These are the biggest sales for yearlings in the Quarter Horse business. The Eclipse Sale in Texas was down however.

 

I’m just one that enjoys watching and having been involved with both breeds, and I would like nothing better than to see them both flourish.

September 15, 2010
7:19 p.m.
Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:


My old friend, Larry Stevens, is right, of course, as he usually is.

 

But the problem is that California racetracks aren’t going to get slot machines, though they’re going to have trouble surviving without them.

 

I have no wish for racing to die in other states. In my last letter, I was just thrashing around looking for some good news for California. My letter probably should have taken a different approach, saying how lucky California is not to be in danger of losing its slot machine subsidies.

September 15, 2010
11:14 a.m.
Larry Stevens, Kennewick, WA:


The USA is a large nation. All the horses can’t run in California. Why would we hope that some tracks would lose their slot-machine money that would close them, just to make racing in California better? That’s not the answer to California racing. The answer is to give California tracks slots and equal parity with the Native Americans and that could be accomplished with a stroke of a pen, provided there are any brains in California government.

 

Racing needs to take place across the country, not just in California.

September 11, 2010
6:23 p.m.
Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:


Back when I was active in the Thoroughbred business, I used to say, “Most news in the horse business is bad.” Much bad news, but the good news can be really, really good.

 

But I don’t know when the bad news has ever been this bad. That observation is prompted by a story today in the “New York Times,” headed, “With New Casino, Funds For Tracks.”

 

When I saw the heading, I thought it would be more bad news for California, since the industry here is seriously threatened by the increases in purses in states with subsidies from slot-machine gambling. Since Southern California tracks compete with those in New York for the best horses, increases in purses there is bad news for tracks here.

 

But as I read on, the story took a turn in an even more threatening direction, reporting on a trend that carries the real possibility of the end of horse racing as we know it.

 

As you’ll see when you read the story, some of those Eastern tracks that have fattened purses with slot-machine money are in danger of losing it, and some that had hoped for that money aren’t going to get it.

 

Just about every state is in deep financial trouble, none as deep as California. One of the places states are already looking for financial help is subsidies for racetracks. With fewer and fewer people interested in horse racing, subsidies for tracks and breeders would generate very little support among the general public, if the general public knew about them.

 

(Teacher layoffs or help for Thoroughbred tracks, owners and breeders? Not a tough choice.)

 

California’s Thoroughbred industry is fortunate to have significant support in the state’s Legislature, but I doubt that that support runs so deep that it could withstand a serious attack. The industry’s main argument — in fact, probably its only argument — in favor of those subsidies is that it provides thousands and thousands of jobs.

 

With no slot machines in California, the state’s tracks don’t get significant subsidies (in fact, I can’t think of any), but the state could reimpose a tax on handle, which used to amount to millions of dollars and whose removal was a major victory for the state’s industry.

 

Most vulnerable, probably, is the state’s incentive awards fund, which might be hard to defend if somebody in the Legislature (or a governor) decided to go after those millions — especially since it would be pretty hard to prove that it’s doing much good.

 

Taking away slot-machine subsidies very well would kill thousands of jobs, but that’s what the “Times” story tells us is happening in those Eastern states. Desperation is the enemy of wisdom.

 

I guess that if Eastern tracks go under, it will free up some horses to come to California, though they wouldn’t be top-of-the-line. If New Mexico and Louisiana cut tracks out of slot subsidies, that would help more.

 

Gee, maybe we can find some good news here, after all, if we look hard enough.

August 31, 2010
2:07 p.m.
Eric W. Anderson, Santa Rosa, CA:

The September 2010 cover of “California Thoroughbred” is a perfect tribute to Scoop; a bear of a man with love for the horse.
August 31, 2010
5:13 a.m.
Jeff Stiefel (Breeder of Burna Dette), Valley Livestock Inc., Chino, CA:


Every time I start to write something, someone else does it better. Thank you to Lisa Groothedde, Ray Paulick, Jeremy Plonk and Stephanie Diaz.

 

Few horses have stories as good as Zenyatta’s, but they all have one. Burna Dette was orphaned as a foal, and through the efforts of Craig Allen of Old English Rancho and Carol Lingenfelter of Poplar Meadows, she got her chance. The continuing story was very good, but not the ending.

 

Two true horsemen recently died: Scoop Vessels and Blane Schvaneveldt. I wonder what they would have to say about Mr. O’Neill and Mr. Guiol?

 

Mr. O’Neill: No matter what you may accomplish in numbers, the stink of this will never go away.

 

Mr. Guiol: You are a true gambler. I am sure Mr. O’Neill told you she was on the vets list three times before you put up $25,000. The duct tape you mentioned might have saved her life if it had been used, since no front leg wraps were.

 

The CHRB, stewards, track vets, jockeys and trainers (except Kristin Mulhall and Peter Eurton) do not want to touch this in fear of upsetting the status quo.

 

The owners provide the entertainment with the horses and money. The jabbering heads at TVG would have a hard time filling their slots without them.

 

There is one thing that can be done. Owners, take a look at who has your horse. If they don’t care, find another. There are many that do.

 

Finally, I owed it to Burna Dette to get her back home. I failed, and for that I am very sorry.

 

August 17, 2010
3:35 p.m.
Don Sandri, Hayward, CA:


I echo the previous mentioned disgust over the breakdown at Los Alamitos. Yesterday at Del Mar, a horrific breakdown occurred in deep stretch when the horse, Fantasy Free, took a bad step and went down in front of a packed grandstand. Clearly, synthetic surfaces are not the total answer and cannot prevent all catastrophic breakdowns.

 

It’s time we put to use technology, currently available, to identify the source of virtually all catastrophic breakdowns—the bone.

 

I would like to see the CHRB initiate a pilot program using the latest technology to scan horses after entry and prior to racing for bone structural soundness. If a horse shows a bone micro fracture level above a healthy standard, the horse is scratched and placed on a vets list until he scans normal.

 

Additionally, let’s order all track vets to disclose to the stewards any bone or soft tissue injury that could potentially compromise any horse’s ability to complete a race sound of limb if entered.

 

Let’s see how many in a controlled study along with vet disclosure experience a catastrophic breakdown in a race over a period of time.

August 15, 2010
7:54 a.m.
Suzanne Pashayan, Calbourne Farm, Fresno, CA:


You know I do this once in a while, but what I just read about Burna Dette should not surprise anyone. As you already know, there are owners and trainers who knowingly do this sort of thing: get rid of horses that are totally useless by putting them where they can rid themselves of a problem as fast as possible. In this case, it was more than obvious that they knew that she had a major problem and were hoping that she would at least finish the race on all four; as we know, she did not.

 

It is truly sad that we do not have enough eyes to see what was happening before this tragic event. When she was entered, someone in the racing office should have noticed the circumstances involving this horse (everything that you laid out so well), should have rung a bell. Her entry should have been voided and the track vet should have looked into the reasons for her being there and dropped so suddenly and no works.

 

How asleep at the wheel does the racing industry have to be? If we cannot see this kind of thing, how can we expect the public to keep accepting us on these terms?

August 11, 2010
8:24 a.m.
Janet Griffin, Bangtail Farm, Mad River, CA:

We were watching Los Al the other night waiting for the 5th to see a horse run that friends of ours bred. When we saw Burna Dette listed in the program, after seeing her at Del Mar recently and having a keen interest in Unusual Heat’s offspring, we were sickened and turned off TVG. We didn’t know until this morning reading your post that what we had feared seeing the drop to $2k had in fact happened.

 

There are many breeders, less than there used to be, but still a few phone calls and someone would have bought the winner of $136k by California’s leading sire for $2k and had her out of their barn in 24 hours.

 

Doug O’Neill and Gregg Guiol may be having a grand time and a successful meet at Del Mar but they should suffer some censure for their treatment of Burna Dette. Probably they will have no consequences as CHRB has also allowed “ruled off for life” Pat Valenzuela to ride here again. Disgraceful.

August 10, 2010
8:16 a.m.
Don Sandri, Hayward, CA:


Here is a link to an article regarding cancelled racing at Pleasanton this coming Wednesday: Contra Costa Times.

 

On a day that symbolizes all that is America we find a story of a sport, so relevant to our history, on life support in California because of a Governor and legislature totally unconcerned over its demise.

 

Horse racing in America is “mom” and “apple pie.” And like any endangered species, if we lose it, we lose a part of American culture that helped define us as a nation.

 

Repeal the “Indian Gaming” stranglehold in California and allow a great sporting tradition to compete on a level playing field.

July 4, 2010
10:21 a.m.
Don Engel, Rohnert Park, CA:


Every once in a while, down here in my submarine of retirement, I run up the periscope to observe the troubled waters of the Thoroughbred sea.

 

For some reason, I’m still on The Jockey Club’s mailing list, and a couple of weeks ago I received a copy of their “2010 Fact Book.” I got around to opening it today and went to the page that I have always found of the greatest interest — the listing of mares bred in each state for each of the past three years.

 

I found this entry for California: 4,706 mares bred in 2007, 4,078 mares bred in 2008, 3,098 mares bred in 2009.

 

How many broken dreams, how much money, how many lost jobs are represented by those frightening numbers?

 

Maybe 2010 will be better. It needs to be.

June 9, 2010
11:43 a.m.
Sandy Nickols, San Pablo, CA:


Suffice to say that Stronach and his bunch should be slapped with a fine and suspended for conduct detrimental to racing.

 

Santa Anita, being the place I received my first racing license in 1969, is a treasure. I would hate to see it go under, but perhaps it is time to think about letting it go and refusing to issue any racing dates to current management.

 

Los Al has always expressed interest in a major Thoroughbred meet; the TOC looked on the verge of being ready to take over Santa Anita before the courts put Stronach back in charge. It certainly wouldn’t be easy, not the stabling and training facilities we now have, but in the big picture might be worth considering if there are no legal obstacles to deal with. There probably are, there always is, but with his attitude towards the good of racing we might have to be making these moves in a few years anyway.

 

It’s not, in my opinion, worth putting up with this petulant stand he is taking. At a time we should all be pulling together, he is trying to put the final nail in.

 

While obviously a pretty shrewd businessman, he did after all buy a bunch of tracks, run up huge debt, get it reduced to a minimal amount and regain control of the properties that make a profit. So.....how can he not see that the real problem is regaining the owners and by doing that we have to get more money in their pockets first, not his. If we can build up the owner ranks, we will have fuller fields generating bigger handles and a more exciting venue for the public which will then put more money in his pockets. Geez.

May 22, 2010
5:22 a.m.
Bill Baker (Barretts Vice President and Controller), Pomona, CA:


Barretts is wholly owned and operated by the Los Angeles County Fair Association (Fairplex), a 501(c)5 mutual benefit corporation.

 

Barretts relies on the financial strength of Fairplex since, unlike most other organizations in the racing business in California, it receives no subsidy from either takeout from wagering or governmental agency. Fairplex proactively looks for ways to increase business efficiency, which is doubly important in this economy. A good recent example of this is the incorporation of the ITW facility and Finish Line Sports Grill into the Barretts auction facility which has been a boost both for the auction business and the ITW business, as well as adding the Finish Line Sports Grill as a new business.

 

Without industry support for the Fairplex training program, it is clear that Fairplex will not need the currently available 1,800 stalls for its three-week annual race meet. With the reduction of inventory of horses available for auction in the state, it also becomes clear that Barretts will not need all 504 stalls in the current Barretts barn area. From a strategic standpoint, it is apparent that the stalls that would be best utilized for alternate use on the grounds would be the only ones with clear street access along White Avenue that will not impact other Fairplex businesses (i.e. Barretts auctions and the live race meet). Among these barns are Barretts Barns 3, 6 and 9. There was a Conditional Use Permit submitted to the City of Pomona to change the zoning of all nine Barretts barns as a matter of convenience, but there are no current plans to expand past the Barretts Barns 3, 6 and 9 conversion into a business park.

 

Without Barns 3, 6 and 9, there are still 336 stalls in the Barretts barn area, which would be big enough for every Barretts auction held in the past 21 years, except for some Mixed Stock sales. It is Barretts’ intention to screen the Mixed Stock sales in the future to fit into the current stall allocation, if necessary. If for some reason this is not adequate, the Fairplex race stalls could be used for overflow as has been the case in prior Mixed Stock sales.

 

Fairplex remains committed to continuing the annual Barretts auctions and its annual live horse racing meet. The increased utilization of the space and structures that will be realized with this conversion will help it do so.

 

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or Kim Lloyd.

March 30, 2010
1:58 p.m.
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